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    Posted: 19 Jan 2014 at 11:16am
I posted on my personal fb page that I was sore and tired ( go figure lol ) but one of my non-Bari-friends who is big into weight training suggested Elite Pro mineral support by Biotest. She said it helps her sleep as well as helps her muscles recover much quicker if she takes it on nights after she weight trains. Now I'm thinking that because they are minerals, they'd probably be safe for us to take? But as always, just want to check before I "do" – interested in any input the pros can provide on this topic. Thank you!
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I will also have one of the dietitians respond.  From the label, 7 capsules contain the following:
  • Magnesium: 400 mg
  • Zinc: 30 mg
  • Selenium: 200 mcg
  • Chromium: 200 mcg
  • Vanadium: 100 mcg

Check your multiple vitatmins.  If you are taking a bariatric formulated one, you may be getting enough of all of these.  I posted a link to a great article about vitamins and minerals.  I found the portion of the article that talked about minerals/vitamins interacting interesting.  Just remember that too much of a good thing is sometimes not a good thing. 

http://www.helpguide.org/harvard/vitamins_and_minerals.htm

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Thanks for the info Terri! I take an over-the-counter women's Daily Multivit so I will have to check the dosages of the above. I agree - don't want to overdo it - that's why Carol cut me down to 1 Multivitamin per day rather than 2 at my one year post op appt in the first place, judging by my bloodwork levels.
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Here is what my daily multivitamin gives me with one tablet:
 
  • Magnesium: 50 mg
  • Zinc: 15 mg
  • Selenium: 20 mcg
  • Chromium: 120 mcg
  • Vanadium: 0
Since most of what is in my multivitamin is considerably less than what is in this product, would that be okay to take to supplement? Also, my friend that takes these mentioned that she does not take 7 capsules, but 4, so if I did that, each dosage would be a little less as well.
 
Just wondering - I won't go for it if you guys think it is not needed or could be harmful in any way. As always - "Curiouser and curiouser!" :)
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Hmm... This questions will probably take some more research to get some definitive guidelines....  I will do some homework and get back to you...  But I know that nutrients tend to be much better utilized from food than from supplements.  Also, minerals can be toxic if consumed in large doses.  Terri was also correct that vitamins and mineral interect with each other.  For example, Copper is neccesary for adequate functioning of Iron, and large doses of Zinc can impair Copper absorption.

"High supplemental zinc intakes of 50 mg/day or more for extended periods of time may result in copper deficiency." (Linus Pauling Institute)
 
Magnesium Toxicity Research:

"Adverse effects have not been identified from magnesium occurring naturally in food. However, adverse effects from excess magnesium have been observed with intakes of various magnesium salts (i.e., supplemental magnesium). The initial symptom of excess magnesium supplementation is diarrhea—a well-known side effect of magnesium that is used therapeutically as a laxative. Individuals with impaired kidney function are at higher risk for adverse effects of magnesium supplementation, and symptoms of magnesium toxicity have occurred in people with impaired kidney function taking moderate doses of magnesium-containing laxatives or antacids. Elevated serum levels of magnesium (hypermagnesemia) may result in a fall in blood pressure (hypotension). Some of the later effects of magnesium toxicity, such as lethargy, confusion, disturbances in normal cardiac rhythm, and deterioration of kidney function, are related to severe hypotension. As hypermagnesemia progresses, muscle weakness and difficulty breathing may occur. Severe hypermagnesemia may result in cardiac arrest (2, 3). The Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) of the Institute of Medicine set the tolerable upper intake level (UL) for magnesium at 350 mg/day. This UL represents the highest level of daily supplemental magnesium intake likely to pose no risk of diarrhea or gastrointestinal disturbance in almost all individuals. The FNB cautions that individuals with renal impairment are at higher risk for adverse effects from excess supplemental magnesium intake. However, the FNB also notes that there are some conditions that may warrant higher doses of magnesium under medical supervision (2)."

Selenium Toxicity Research:
"Although selenium is required for health, like other nutrients, high doses of selenium can be toxic. Acute and fatal toxicities have occurred with accidental or suicidal ingestion of gram quantities of selenium. Clinically significant selenium toxicity was reported in 13 individuals after taking supplements that contained 27.3 milligrams (27,300 mcg) per tablet due to a manufacturing error. Chronic selenium toxicity (selenosis) may occur with smaller doses of selenium over long periods of time. The most frequently reported symptoms of selenosis are hair and nail brittleness and loss. Other symptoms may include gastrointestinal disturbances, skin rashes, a garlic breath odor, fatigue, irritability, and nervous system abnormalities. In an area of China with a high prevalence of selenosis, toxic effects occurred with increasing frequency when blood selenium concentrations reached a level corresponding to an intake of 850 mcg/day. The Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) of the Institute of Medicine recently set the tolerable upper intake level (UL) for selenium at 400 mcg/day in adults based on the prevention of hair and nail brittleness and loss and early signs of chronic selenium toxicity (15). The UL of 400 mcg/day for adults (see table below) includes selenium obtained from food, which averages about 100 mcg/day for adults in the U.S., as well as selenium from supplements. For more information on the data used to set the recent RDA and UL for selenium"
 
The Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University has a plethora of information on mineral supplementation, functions, etc.  Check it out: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals.html
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OOOOkay and this is why I ask hahaha!
 
Not going near those things!
 
Thanks Laurie & Terri! Big smile
Adrienne :)
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 I'm sorry guys because I can see that this is an 2014 post, however I'm interested in Elite Pro mineral support by Biotest and this is the post that I have been given on searching here. so... what I'm trying to figure out is.. i'm a hypertensive person, would the Elite Pro mineral support by Biotest be good for me?? I have tried orlistat and I got an extremely bad reaction to it. but I think that Elite Pro might be safer, or might it be dangerous?


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